---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text of TeleFinder Chat from Friday, May 8, 1998 11 AM PDT. In attendance: From SpiderIsland: Rusty Tucker Sysops: Michael Davidson, Bob Nunn, mikael fredriksson, Daniel O'Leary, Bob Wright, Bill Gram-Reefer, Donald McHose, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rusty Tucker hola! Michael Davidson : hi Rusty Rusty Tucker Hi, I've got to run now, but will be back by about noon. Michael Davidson : what's the latest :) Michael Davidson : one hour? Rusty Tucker ( plug-in updates online now ) Michael Davidson : Need a bot to tell people to come back in one hour mikael fredriksson : Where? Michael Davidson : where what mikael mikael fredriksson : plug-in updates Michael Davidson : o Bob Nunn joined the chat. Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Bob! Michael Davidson : guys, I gotta go. I might be back in an hour. See ya! Michael Davidson left the chat. Rusty Tucker c-ya Michael Davidson Bob Nunn : Did you see the new iMac RT? Bob Wright joined the chat. Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Bob! Bob Nunn : Hey Bob Bob Wright : greetings! Bob Wright : I am sure you have told me this before, RT but is there any way to get the Directories URL paths to be listed in alphabetical order? Daniel O'Leary joined the chat. Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Daniel! Daniel O'Leary : Argh.... BOTS! Daniel O'Leary : grin. Daniel O'Leary : What have I missed? Bob Nunn : Apple has info about the iMac up now. Big press release. Bob Wright : I played with a G3 last week...ordered one for my desk *grin* Bob Nunn : The new iMac has a G3 in it and is $1299 Daniel O'Leary : My wife wants one. Daniel O'Leary : Naturally, she's a smart girl... Bob Nunn : I want to put on on all the desks of our managers up here. But then they would have more power than our designers... Bob Wright : 1299...what else comes on it? Bob Nunn : 4 Gig 32mb Ram, 24x CD `15" monitor 10/100 enet etc. Daniel O'Leary : Bad news... I had to nuke my CW installation due to an HD corruption problem. Salvaged my own Java code, but will have to reinstall CW. Bob Wright : what software? Bob Wright : The G3 I saw comes with Office 98 and not SoftWindows but the windows emulation software package that is like SoftWindows Bob Wright : PLUS...a zip drive :) Daniel O'Leary : Need a Jaz drive. Bob Nunn : Would love to have one. May settle for a card sometime in the future. The little iMac should give them a strong shot in the arm. $1299 for a fairly nice package that is faster than most all pentiums Daniel O'Leary : zip is too small nowadays. Bob Nunn : you going to have those mikael? The iMacs? Bob Wright : I wish when you buy to order from Apple you did not have to purchase SDRAMs...I can get 32mb SDRAM for less than 55.00 Donald McHose joined the chat. Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Donald! Donald McHose : STILL ALIVE AND WELL how's ya'll? mikael fredriksson : BN I think that we will get them in august (work at a Apple Center) Daniel O'Leary : am ok now, but expect big time hail tonight. Bob Wright : I am expecting big time hail with in the next couple of hours Daniel O'Leary : had the 9th annual "bug boil" and it was a success this past Tues... Bob Nunn : They look better than I had imagined when I saw rumors of them. Perhaps it will do it for them. Daniel O'Leary : will be doing it again in June Donald McHose : DL/BW: B- thinking of ya. Clear skies now " fingers crossed ". Daniel O'Leary : grin. Daniel O'Leary : all of my vehicles have sunroofs... Daniel O'Leary : Argh. Daniel O'Leary : will be overpass shopping in a bit. Donald McHose : hear ya !! Daniel O'Leary : What did I miss on the last coupla chats? Daniel O'Leary : any new plug-in development going on? Bob Wright : When is TF User going to get "fixed", RT? (i.e. bad password will not return you to the connection screen.) Donald McHose : along with that , what is on the next release plate? Daniel O'Leary : curiosity is eating me up also. Donald McHose : ;-) Daniel O'Leary : BRB. Daniel O'Leary : popcorn lunch in prep. Bob Wright : well, does anyone know how to get the Directories URL listings in alpha order? Bob Wright : When I click on Web and then Server Settings and looks at the directories, they are not listed in alpha order...can I change this? Daniel O'Leary : BW, the only way I know is to open the file in something else that can sort it. Bob Nunn : If it is a settings file you can import it into excel. Daniel O'Leary : I know that a sort routine was added to Mail server a while back for paths... the same thing could be added for TF server. Bob Nunn : I even do that with my address book file on TFUser. Easier to edit. Would be nice to be built in though. Bob Wright : Ahh...www_directories.config could be imported into ClarisWorks and then sorted? Bob Nunn : Yep Donald McHose : there goes the bell, better run! See ya'll later. Donald McHose left the chat. Rusty Tucker c-ya Donald McHose Daniel O'Leary : BN... IP don't use M$ anything... Bob Wright : I don't see how a database program can be told to sort when the field starts with / though....how will it know how to sort /a/ or /b/ first? Bob Nunn : I only use the real Mac versions. You know like excel 4 Daniel O'Leary : Gates Free am i. Daniel O'Leary : BW, the chars are parsed... Bob Nunn : Have you see my Ask the Borg D.O.? Bill Gram-Reefer joined the chat. Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Bill! Daniel O'Leary : if the first matches, then the second is tested. Daniel O'Leary : no, BN. Bill Gram-Reefer : grrr Bob Wright : DO'L: ok...thanks Bob Wright : BN: I saw your borg...pretty fun :) Bob Nunn : DL it from SI. Think you might get a kick out of it. Bill Gram-Reefer : Was that the pic from Boardwatch's cover some time back? Bob Nunn : Yep sort of borrowed it. Daniel O'Leary : Picard as Locutus, I bet. Bill Gram-Reefer : thought it looked familiar Daniel O'Leary : or bill as same? Bob Nunn : horked it that is. Horking is to borrow without returning. Bob Nunn : BillGatus of Borg Daniel O'Leary : have seen that one too. Bob Nunn : Well you can ask him 8 ball questions but with modified responses about assimilation etc. Bob Nunn : headgap.com/borg.spml Daniel O'Leary : I penned a snarling letter to our security and IT guys about Wintel. Daniel O'Leary : We'll see what happens.. Daniel O'Leary : Security guys know the magnitude of the problem but are being overruled by IT "experts"... Bob Nunn : Yup, that's why I was so pleased with the iMac. Price and speed was always the argument they used. Now to get rid of this NT server up here. Daniel O'Leary : I think that is the chink in the M$ armor. Daniel O'Leary : NT' security rating is based upon a non-netted 3.5 CPU. Daniel O'Leary : not what they currently sell, and not without installation of "maintenance packs". Bob Nunn : Well if it is 3.5 it has dancing directories for all the Mac users with sys8. Its like playing kill Barney to hit your icon. Daniel O'Leary : I have updated my M$lockout page Daniel O'Leary : you can see it at kz.eaze.net/no_ms-why.spml, IP think. Bob Nunn : Got it. Daniel O'Leary : Be sure to use NS or other nonMS browser, or you'll see it alot more than you want (i.e., on any page on my site!) Bob Nunn : NS3.04 the last real Mac version of Netscape? Daniel O'Leary : IP think so, BN. Daniel O'Leary : 4.05?? Daniel O'Leary : is what I have here... Daniel O'Leary : 3.x should work also. Bob Nunn : Didn't you notice the graphics degrade to PC levels when you change between 3 and 4? Daniel O'Leary : not really, could be a color setting. Bob Nunn : They changed the way the colors are handled. It is not a settings unfortunately. Daniel O'Leary : thought the std palette was only 256 for GIF's, but am probably wrong... Bill Gram-Reefer left the chat. Rusty Tucker c-ya Bill Gram-Reefer Bob Nunn : Nope they equalized it down for the Windoze machines. Changed the dithering too. Daniel O'Leary : IP know that RGB values rang from 000000 to FFFFFF. Bob Nunn : Load em both and look sometime. Gotta run getting late. See everyone next week. Send me the logs RT Bob Nunn left the chat. Rusty Tucker c-ya Bob Nunn Bob Wright : see you guys later Bob Wright left the chat. Rusty Tucker c-ya Bob Wright Daniel O'Leary : I've loaded 4.05. Daniel O'Leary : I don't have the ram to load both, mikael fredriksson left the chat. Rusty Tucker c-ya mikael fredriksson Daniel O'Leary : Where is RT? Daniel O'Leary : guess I'm outta here also... Daniel O'Leary left the chat. 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