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Subject: EvangeList Digest V1 #1201
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EvangeList Digest Wednesday, June 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 1201



In this issue:

PR - GPSy 3.10 released (Macintosh GPS software)
Tidbit - Rhapsody-Drivers Mailing List
PR - Introducing YankPro 2 from Maui Software
Tidbit - Innovative car shown using QTVR
Followup - Mac-based Voicemail
Tidbit - Hypercard Mailing List
Tidbit - Charity Begins At Home
Tidbit - Programmers Online Forum Reopens
PR - Visual MacStandardBasic Offer Extended

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:06:21 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: PR - GPSy 3.10 released (Macintosh GPS software)

This announcement is from:

Karen Nakamura, <karen@gpsy.com>

Global Mapping Systems has released version 3.10 of GPSy (TM) -- its
Macintosh GPS communications package. GPSy 3.10 adds a significant number
of new features and enhancements including:

* Improved map interface such as PhotoShop (TM) style commands for drag-
scrolling and zooming; as well as enhanced printing and calibrating.
* Ability to center on current map location and update in real-time for
true moving map display capabilities
* Improved windowing support
* Improved GPS device support

(the full 3.10 release notes are attached to the bottom of this message)

GPSy is a full featured Global Positioning Systems (GPS) software package
for the Macintosh. GPSy can interface with practically any data-capable
GPS unit on the market and provides a real-time moving map display with
navigation features as well as numerous "offline" waypoint and route
planning utilities.

Karen Nakamura, head of Software Development and Tea Serving at Global
Positioning Systems, comments that "GPSy 3.10 is a significant upgrade to
this package in terms of new features and new interface options and is
the result of considerable user-feedback. Anyone who hasn't downloaded
GPSy in a while should try this new release. We've continued our
tradition of free upgrades for previous customers; so there's no excuse
not to download it. GPSy 3.10 has tested 98.8% Carbon-pure and we're
fully committed to shipping a fully native MacOS-X version."

There is a free downloadable demo of GPSy 3.10 on Global Mapping Systems'
web site:

<http://www.gpsy.com/download.html>

To upgrade to the full version is US$50 for individual users and US$100
for institutional users. Academic pricing is available. Purchases can be
made through the online web site or via more traditional means.

<http://www.gpsy.com/purchase.html>

Also on the web site are links to GPSy compatible maps; resources for
both novice and expert GPS users; and links to third party packages:

<http://www.gpsy.com>

GPSy requires a 68020 or above or PowerPC; System 7.5.5 or above (8.1
recommended); QuickTime 3.0; and a compatible GPS receiver and cable.

In a related story, Global Mapping Systems is one of the sponsors of the
Pony Express Tour 98 run by the Women's Motorcyclist Foundation. During
the tour this summer, GPSy will be used as part of the pre-tour planning
and routing process as well as during the tour on the support van as part
of the automapping system. Global Mapping Systems has donated several
copies of GPSy and is loaning some of their test GPS units to the tour.
The Pony Express Tour is an all-Mac effort, so the Macintosh community is
strongly encouraged to help support them:

<http://www.cybercyclemag.com/ponyexpress98/>

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:06:22 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: Tidbit - Rhapsody-Drivers Mailing List

This tidbit is from:

Kirk Rogers, <rogers.146@osu.edu>

The Rhapsody-Drivers mailing list is now publicly available.

Rhapsody-Drivers is aimed at giving driver developers, device
manufacturers and concerned users a place to meet and exchange ideas,
concerns, questions, etc. The primary focus of Rhapsody-Drivers will be
developing driver software for Rhapsody and MacOS X. We will also
entertain requests for particular hardware drivers that Apple may not
supply with Rhapsody/MacOS X.

Subscription Info:

You can subscribe by sending email to <autoshare@>
msem26.eng.ohio-state.edu> with "subscribe rhapsody-drivers <Your Name>"
in the message *body*. Please use your real name without quotes or
brackets when you subscribe.

A 10-message digest version will be available. After you subscribe send
email to <autoshare@> msem26.eng.ohio-state.edu> with "set
rhapsody-drivers digest" in the message *body*.

The WWW page for rhapsody-drivers is:

<http://msem26.eng.ohio-state.edu/rhapsody-drivers/>

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:06:20 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: PR - Introducing YankPro 2 from Maui Software

This announcement is from:

Maui Software, <sales@mauisoftware.com>

YankPro 2 is a $29 Mac commercial application that does eight things:

- -- Uninstalls an application and related files. You installed SurfRider
on your hard disk years ago, but you never use it? Now you can uninstall
SurfRider and all SurfRider related files.

- -- Searches for duplicate applications. How many copies of SimpleText do
you really need?

- -- Searches the System Preferences folder for orphaned files. Almost
every program you ever run creates a preference file, including those
shareware programs you tried years ago just one time.

- -- Slims Fat Applications. Many applications contain two sets of code so
they can run in native mode on both PowerMacs and older 68K Macs. Now you
can reduce the size of most fat applications by up to 30%.

- -- Remove unnecessary Apple Guide files. You probably already know how to
use your applications, so there is no need to clutter up your hard disk
with all those unwanted help files.

- -- Searches for orphaned alias files. An alias file is a file that points
to another file. If somehow the alias loses track of which file it points
to, it becomes an orphaned alias.

- -- Searches for empty files. Helps you get rid of files that contain no
data. There is usually no need to clutter up your hard disk with
unnecessary empty files.

- -- Searches for empty folders. Helps you get rid of empty folders. There
is usually no need to clutter up your hard disk with unnecessary empty
folders.

YankPro 2 is a free upgrade from YankPro 1.

For more information visit
<http://www.mauisoftware.com/YankPro/YankPro.html> or send email to
<mailto:sales@mauisoftware.com>.

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:06:30 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: Tidbit - Innovative car shown using QTVR

Keyword: Advocacy, Macintosh in Action

This tidbit is from:

Ivanov, Nikolay, <Ivanov@IBS.ru>

NEWS.COM today features a piece about newest Silicon Valley fashion:
futuristic electric driven car by GM.

"Silicon Valley's computer nerds say the latest in geek chic is an
aerodynamic, environmentally correct electric car. " ...It is the
ultimate in nerd status," [director of the Institute of the Future in
Menlo Park, CA] Saffo said. "Six months from now when everyone has a
Beetle and no one cares, it's the electric car that will still turn
heads. These things look like messenger vehicles for the Martian
assembly."

Full text of the article is at
<http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,22604,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh>

What innovative technology do you think GM uses to show off the
innovative car at a special Web site?

<http://www.gmev.com/evsite/ev1/movies/index.htm>

Car manufacturers seem to be the most active commercial users of QTVR, I
must say.

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:06:25 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: Followup - Mac-based Voicemail

This follow-up message is from:

Lynn Joiner <NRecs@aol.com>

A few weeks ago I posted an inquiry about Mac-based voicemail systems for
multi-line office phone installations, on both the EvangeList and the Mac
Managers list. We had just installed a Lucent Technologies Partner ACS
phone system in my wifes medical office (five incoming lines, 14
stations), and I hoped to find a Mac-based voicemail system that would
integrate with the Partner ACS box and a future data network.

Let me first apologize for taking so long to report back. The posts
generated well over a hundred responses--the majority from the larger
EvangeList--and the task of summarizing was daunting enough for me to use
the "wait for a convenient time" excuse. There never is a convenient
time, but as people are still asking for results and posting similar
queries, I had better get to it--additional apologies for the length of
this, but it appears to be a hot topic.

A lot of folks directed me to various vendors of Mac telephony software
and equipment, well-known and less so. As it turns out, none currently
offer voicemail systems with the capabilities of the PC-based systems
that dominate the industry, but they may suit some users needs, and a few
bear watching for future developments:

(1) PhonePro from Bing Software, formerly AVEO, formerly Cypress
<Research <http://www.bingsoftware.com>:> PhonePro is "telephony
development software which uses an intuitive icon-based scripting
language." Bing claims that it will work with "most popular analog and
digital PBX systems," but "digital systems require an analog extension."
Bing also adds, "Currently any telephony application created on the Mac
can only answer one telephone line at a time." The key word is
"currently"; according to a source at Bing, "We are working on a
Multiline solution using a PCI Mac and Dialog multiline cards (the same
cards used on the evil Windows side)." Meanwhile, a demo of PhonePro is
available from Bings web site. Judging from one comment, we can look
forward to the multiline version: "The power and scalability of this
system," writes Scott McCambley, "is scary."

(2) MegaPhone, also from Bing Software: Its popular, ships with some
Macs, and is designed for single-line, analog applications.

(3) PhoneMaker, from Micromat <http://www.micromat.com> the makers of
TechTool: Two respondents thought Micromat was (in the words of one)
"toying with taking their PhoneMaker software multi-line." But according
to Micromat, "We dont expect to have anything like this soon." PhoneMaker
is, like PhonePro, an icon-based development tool, and appears similar in
its capabilities to PhonePro. Conceivably Micromat and Bing could emerge
one day as competitors for the multi-line Mac market. What does "soon"
mean?

(4) CommuniGate from Stalker Software <http://www.stalker.com>. Several
respondents (two associated with medical offices) suggested we
investigate this product, which gets raves for its e-mail and fax
management capabilities. However, Stalker reports that its CommuniGate
Voice module is "on hold for about a year." In any case it is apparently
designed to work with a modem, not with a multi-line digital phone system.

(5) VOICEstf, from stf, makers of the popular FAXstf and now owners of
Pleiades Software's Front Office voicemail <http://www.stfinc.com>:>
Since the Pleiades product line is being integrated into the STF line,
this pronouncement from STF may serve for both: "We may do a multi-line,
digital or analog solution in the future but we currently don't have
anything like that available."

(6) MacComCenter, from Smith Micro <http://www.smithmicro.com>:> Another
well- known fax and voice application, but also only for single-line,
analog systems.

(7) Dakota, from Cambridge Computer Corp. <http://www.cam.com>:> "Dakota
is an application development environment for building Power Macintosh
telephony systems." Like PhonePro and PhoneMaker, it uses icons to build
flow chart systems--not apparently for multi-line systems.

(8) YoYo, from Big Island <http://www.big-island.com>:> Well-reviewed
telephone features, but not voicemail.

Besides these leads to major Mac vendors, there were a number of unique
but intriguing approaches to the problem of Mac-based voicemail:

(9) Duet, from Magnum Software <http://www.magnumcorp.com>:> Only one
respondent mentioned this firm, which claims to have made the "the very
FIRST iconic flowcharting telephony system on the market," in 1988. TFLX,
as it's called, runs on everything from a Mac Plus on for single-line
applications. Duet, however, uses the Mac as a front-end for a DOS-based
PC using a multi- port board. What this offers, of course, is ease of
programming, an advantage obviated to some extent (dare I say it?) by
Windows.

(10) Jerry Ray reports that he threw out a Northern Telecom system,
bought standard analog phones, subscribed to CentraNet (which provides
PBX functions for a monthly charge), "all tied together with Front Office
1.5 and FAXstf." He adds: "I have had much less trouble with this at a
tenth of the expense of a 4 port (Rhetorex board) turnkey PC system I had
two years ago." Clearly, if you have an existing Mac network and no
modern phone system (or one you can afford to toss out), this is a
possible way to go.

(11) Virtual PC on a G3 Mac: "You don't want to go Wintel! You'll regret
it, and your pocketbook will, too!" (Mike)

(12) Terminal emulation: "Most of the PC-based solutions can be
administered from *any* machine with a telnet or null-modem
connection--through a terminal emulator!" (Ted Thibodeau, Jr.).

(13) Wait for Rhapsody: "NeXT (from whence it comes) is a prime system
for AT&T wireless so have a little patience and the systems will come to
you" (JB).

(14) A network called I-Link Worldwide has a voicemail/messaging/faxing
component called V-Link <http://www.I-Link.net>. It apparently ties you
into a central server which can handle a large number of telephone
functions. It requires no internal hardware. I don't fully understand it,
but it looks promising.

(15) Other suggestions: the SupraExpress 56 modem from <Diamond
<http://www.diamondmm.com>>, which comes with voicemail software; the
Apple Geoport Adapter (used by many of the single-line systems); Apple
Telecom 3.0; Qualcomm (provides voicemail only over the Internet).

The upshot of all this:

There are no turnkey Mac-based voicemail systems for multi-line, digital
phone systems. Now that the Mac uses PCI slots, and so can use the same
boards the PC-based systems do, it is probably a question of demand.
Judging from the responses to this original post, there is a great deal
of interest in Mac voicemail, which would probably translate into
customer demand. About half of my respondents said, "Me too. Please let
me know if you find anything."

But maybe it doesn't matter all that much. Here's reassurance from a
correspondent named Joel:

"Mac voice mail
"Does not exist.

"But don't despair.

"A voice mail system usually sits in a phone closet and has no bearing on
what platform you use in your office. . . Think of it this way: Older
voice mail systems had proprietary hardware, but nobody based their
networks on that. . ."

As for the path to CTI (computer-telephony-integration), which led me to
worry about the voicemail system, Joel asks: ". . .do you REALLY need it
or have you just seen a lot of marketing that says you really need it? I
am yet to see anyone outside of customer service help centers actually
use this and like it. Most people don't like the thought of their phone
crashing. . ."

In addition to enthusiasm and fervor, in the Mac community there is
realism as well: leave the PC in the closet to run your phone system and
use your Macs for the real work.

Lynn Joiner
Walking Creek Productions
<NRecs@aol.com>

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:06:28 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: Tidbit - Hypercard Mailing List

This tidbit is from:

samu, <samu@golden.net>

From time to time, a request shows up on the Evangelist - the damndest
thing is really, that this kind of request hits the Evangelist all the
time - a request for a single ability program or a customized database
that does something that only a DOS or Windows program can do. Do you
know you can create most of these solutions yourself, easily, using
HyperCard?

Recently a request was made for a program to track Mac stations across a
network without the Chooser. A number of such requests have been
cross-posted to the HyperCard mailing list where a short discussion
usually ensues as to how easy or straightforward it would be to do
such-and-such in HyperCard or HyperCard with Applescript.

We have a couple of "Kids" on the list capable of writing - in HyperCard
and Applescript - a networked HyperCard stack for the presentation of an
assignment at school. Recently I spent two afternoons writing a stack
that turned into a Network Chat program demonstrating Program Linking. I
am a 45 year old artist - not a programmer by any definition.

HyperCard seems to be a solution for everything without being a specific
solution to anything - until someone with imagination, someone who thinks
differently, comes along and realizes it. I can't neglect to mention
FileMaker as a solution too for these kinds of requests posted to the
Evangelist, but, powerful tools for personal and creative solutions are
already in your hands.

Some links to get you started with seeing what HyperCard can do:

For a great start try:
The HyperCard Resource Page:
<http://www.glasscat.com/hypercard>
HyperCard Heaven:
<http://members.aol.com/hcheaven/index.html>

Then move on to:
Mark Gregory's Teach HyperCard site:
<http://www.chepd.mq.edu.au/boomerang/TeachHC/>

This site link below will let you subscribe to the HyperCard mailing
list. We want to help you! The HyperCard Mailing List:
<http://www.glasscat.com/hypercard/HCML.cgi>

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:06:12 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: Tidbit - Charity Begins At Home

This tidbit is from:

Robert Paul Leitao, <rleitao@atpm.com>

My name is Robert Paul Leitao and I'm the managing editor of ATPM, an
independent, all-volunteer e-zine for Mac users <www.atpm.com>. The low
prices on G3s are tempting many of our readers to buy new computers.
Personally, I'd like an iMac for my kids and a new Powerbook for me. The
problem is while many of us may have a little bit of room on our credit
cards,our homes don't have room for an old Mac and a new Mac.

Donating our older computers to a charity will not only free up the space
in our homes for a new G3 desktop or mini tower, it may also open the
wonderful world of Macintosh computing to new groups of users. If you
know of charitable organizations that will take donations of Macintosh
equipment, please e-mail me at <rleitao@atpm.com>. Specifically, I'd like
the following information:

Organization Name
Contact Name
Contact Phone Number
Contact E-mail Address
Type of Organization (i.e. school, private charity, etc.)
Kind of Mac Equipment Needed or Accepted

I'll match this information with offers of pre-owned Macintosh hardware
that I receive from our readers and from Evangelistas. Please send offers
of Macintosh hardware to the same e-mail address <rleitao@atpm.com>. This
is a volunteer effort designed to help others while we help ourselves to
the Pentium poundin' power of Apple's G3 machines!

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:06:12 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: Tidbit - Programmers Online Forum Reopens

Keyword: Becoming an AppleDeveloper

This tidbit is from:

MacDev-1 Moderator, <MacDev-1@listmail.xplain.com>

The Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum on the Delphi online service
has just reopened after a complete overhaul. It provides a web site with
some news, but more importantly, MacProg provides moderated message
boards and conference rooms for serious (and sometimes not-so-serious)
Macintosh programming discussions.

"Moderated" means that although all messages are posted immediately,
there is staff available to help guide discussions to ensure that they
remain more or less relevant to Macintosh and PowerPC programming (unlike
some places, where message fascists edit every message before it gets
posted).

The staff is also available to help answer your questions, and includes
professional Mac programmers, technical writers, and a couple of
hobbyists as well.

The Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum's web site is located at
<http://www.delphi.com/macprog/>. MacProg is an official Delphi forum,
operated under contract by Syndicomm, Inc.

Access to MacProg is free-of-charge, and provides a safe, comfortable
place to debate whether or not you should be implementing that blitter in
assembly instead of calling CopyBits, or how to get that C++ class doing
exactly what you want.

For more information about MacProg, visit MacProg's web site at
<http://www.delphi.com/macprog/> or email <sheppy@syndicomm.com>.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:06:13 -0800
From: John Halbig <john@garage.com>
Subject: PR - Visual MacStandardBasic Offer Extended

This announcement is from:

ZCurve, <zcurve@zcurve.com>

ZCurve Software has announced that it has extended its special offer of
$29.95 for Visual MacStandardBasic through August 31st, 1998. Visual
MacStandardBasic normally has a retail price of $ 99.

Professional Macintosh applications can be visually created in minutes.
Visual MacStandardBasic uses and extends BASIC's easy to learn format to
utilize the power of the Macintosh. It is easy for users to integrate
sound, speech, color graphics, sprite animation, movies into their
applications.

Users can purchase and download the complete Visual MacStandardBasic
package from the ZCurve Software web site <http://www.zcurve.com>.
Currently, Macintosh users anywhere in the world can get Visual
MacStandardBasic within minutes over the Internet.

Visual MacStandardBasic is also available from Developer Depot
<http://www.devdepot.com>. Developer Depot is a leader in providing
software products to Macintosh users around the world.

Visual MacStandardBasic is optimized for both Apple's newer Power
Macintosh computers and older Macintosh models.

For more information about Visual MacStandardBasic visit the ZCurve
Software web site at <http://www.zcurve.com> EMail: <zcurve@zcurve.com>

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