Text of TeleFinder Chat from Friday, May 8, 1998 11 AM PDT.
In attendance:
From SpiderIsland: Rusty Tucker
Sysops: Michael Davidson, Bob Nunn, mikael fredriksson, Daniel
O'Leary, Bob Wright, Bill Gram-Reefer, Donald McHose,
Rusty Tucker hola!
Michael Davidson : hi Rusty
Rusty Tucker Hi, I've got to run now, but will be back by
about noon.
Michael Davidson : what's the latest :)
Michael Davidson : one hour?
Rusty Tucker ( plug-in updates online now )
Michael Davidson : Need a bot to tell people to come back in
one hour
mikael fredriksson : Where?
Michael Davidson : where what mikael
mikael fredriksson : plug-in updates
Michael Davidson : o
Bob Nunn joined the chat.
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Bob!
Michael Davidson : guys, I gotta go. I might be back in an
hour. See ya!
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Rusty Tucker c-ya Michael Davidson
Bob Nunn : Did you see the new iMac RT?
Bob Wright joined the chat.
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Bob!
Bob Nunn : Hey Bob
Bob Wright : greetings!
Bob Wright : I am sure you have told me this before, RT but
is there any way to get the Directories URL paths to be listed in
alphabetical order?
Daniel O'Leary joined the chat.
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Daniel!
Daniel O'Leary : Argh.... BOTS!
Daniel O'Leary : grin.
Daniel O'Leary : What have I missed?
Bob Nunn : Apple has info about the iMac up now. Big press
release.
Bob Wright : I played with a G3 last week...ordered one for
my desk *grin*
Bob Nunn : The new iMac has a G3 in it and is $1299
Daniel O'Leary : My wife wants one.
Daniel O'Leary : Naturally, she's a smart girl...
Bob Nunn : I want to put on on all the desks of our managers
up here. But then they would have more power than our
designers...
Bob Wright : 1299...what else comes on it?
Bob Nunn : 4 Gig 32mb Ram, 24x CD `15" monitor 10/100 enet
etc.
Daniel O'Leary : Bad news... I had to nuke my CW installation
due to an HD corruption problem. Salvaged my own Java code, but will
have to reinstall CW.
Bob Wright : what software?
Bob Wright : The G3 I saw comes with Office 98 and not
SoftWindows but the windows emulation software package that is like
SoftWindows
Bob Wright : PLUS...a zip drive :)
Daniel O'Leary : Need a Jaz drive.
Bob Nunn : Would love to have one. May settle for a card
sometime in the future. The little iMac should give them a strong
shot in the arm. $1299 for a fairly nice package that is faster than
most all pentiums
Daniel O'Leary : zip is too small nowadays.
Bob Nunn : you going to have those mikael? The iMacs?
Bob Wright : I wish when you buy to order from Apple you did
not have to purchase SDRAMs...I can get 32mb SDRAM for less than
55.00
Donald McHose joined the chat.
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Donald!
Donald McHose : STILL ALIVE AND WELL how's ya'll?
mikael fredriksson : BN I think that we will get them in
august (work at a Apple Center)
Daniel O'Leary : am ok now, but expect big time hail
tonight.
Bob Wright : I am expecting big time hail with in the next
couple of hours
Daniel O'Leary : had the 9th annual "bug boil" and it was a
success this past Tues...
Bob Nunn : They look better than I had imagined when I saw
rumors of them. Perhaps it will do it for them.
Daniel O'Leary : will be doing it again in June
Donald McHose : DL/BW: B- thinking of ya. Clear skies now "
fingers crossed ".
Daniel O'Leary : grin.
Daniel O'Leary : all of my vehicles have sunroofs...
Daniel O'Leary : Argh.
Daniel O'Leary : will be overpass shopping in a bit.
Donald McHose : hear ya !!
Daniel O'Leary : What did I miss on the last coupla
chats?
Daniel O'Leary : any new plug-in development going on?
Bob Wright : When is TF User going to get "fixed", RT? (i.e.
bad password will not return you to the connection screen.)
Donald McHose : along with that , what is on the next release
plate?
Daniel O'Leary : curiosity is eating me up also.
Donald McHose : ;-)
Daniel O'Leary : BRB.
Daniel O'Leary : popcorn lunch in prep.
Bob Wright : well, does anyone know how to get the
Directories URL listings in alpha order?
Bob Wright : When I click on Web and then Server Settings and
looks at the directories, they are not listed in alpha order...can I
change this?
Daniel O'Leary : BW, the only way I know is to open the file
in something else that can sort it.
Bob Nunn : If it is a settings file you can import it into
excel.
Daniel O'Leary : I know that a sort routine was added to Mail
server a while back for paths... the same thing could be added for TF
server.
Bob Nunn : I even do that with my address book file on
TFUser. Easier to edit. Would be nice to be built in though.
Bob Wright : Ahh...www_directories.config could be imported
into ClarisWorks and then sorted?
Bob Nunn : Yep
Donald McHose : there goes the bell, better run! See ya'll
later.
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Rusty Tucker c-ya Donald McHose
Daniel O'Leary : BN... IP don't use M$ anything...
Bob Wright : I don't see how a database program can be told
to sort when the field starts with / though....how will it know how
to sort /a/ or /b/ first?
Bob Nunn : I only use the real Mac versions. You know like
excel 4
Daniel O'Leary : Gates Free am i.
Daniel O'Leary : BW, the chars are parsed...
Bob Nunn : Have you see my Ask the Borg D.O.?
Bill Gram-Reefer joined the chat.
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the chat Bill!
Daniel O'Leary : if the first matches, then the second is
tested.
Daniel O'Leary : no, BN.
Bill Gram-Reefer : grrr
Bob Wright : DO'L: ok...thanks
Bob Wright : BN: I saw your borg...pretty fun :)
Bob Nunn : DL it from SI. Think you might get a kick out of
it.
Bill Gram-Reefer : Was that the pic from Boardwatch's cover
some time back?
Bob Nunn : Yep sort of borrowed it.
Daniel O'Leary : Picard as Locutus, I bet.
Bill Gram-Reefer : thought it looked familiar
Daniel O'Leary : or bill as same?
Bob Nunn : horked it that is. Horking is to borrow without
returning.
Bob Nunn : BillGatus of Borg
Daniel O'Leary : have seen that one too.
Bob Nunn : Well you can ask him 8 ball questions but with
modified responses about assimilation etc.
Bob Nunn : headgap.com/borg.spml
Daniel O'Leary : I penned a snarling letter to our security
and IT guys about Wintel.
Daniel O'Leary : We'll see what happens..
Daniel O'Leary : Security guys know the magnitude of the
problem but are being overruled by IT "experts"...
Bob Nunn : Yup, that's why I was so pleased with the iMac.
Price and speed was always the argument they used. Now to get rid of
this NT server up here.
Daniel O'Leary : I think that is the chink in the M$
armor.
Daniel O'Leary : NT' security rating is based upon a
non-netted 3.5 CPU.
Daniel O'Leary : not what they currently sell, and not
without installation of "maintenance packs".
Bob Nunn : Well if it is 3.5 it has dancing directories for
all the Mac users with sys8. Its like playing kill Barney to hit your
icon.
Daniel O'Leary : I have updated my M$lockout page
Daniel O'Leary : you can see it at
kz.eaze.net/no_ms-why.spml, IP think.
Bob Nunn : Got it.
Daniel O'Leary : Be sure to use NS or other nonMS browser, or
you'll see it alot more than you want (i.e., on any page on my
site!)
Bob Nunn : NS3.04 the last real Mac version of Netscape?
Daniel O'Leary : IP think so, BN.
Daniel O'Leary : 4.05??
Daniel O'Leary : is what I have here...
Daniel O'Leary : 3.x should work also.
Bob Nunn : Didn't you notice the graphics degrade to PC
levels when you change between 3 and 4?
Daniel O'Leary : not really, could be a color setting.
Bob Nunn : They changed the way the colors are handled. It is
not a settings unfortunately.
Daniel O'Leary : thought the std palette was only 256 for
GIF's, but am probably wrong...
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Rusty Tucker c-ya Bill Gram-Reefer
Bob Nunn : Nope they equalized it down for the Windoze
machines. Changed the dithering too.
Daniel O'Leary : IP know that RGB values rang from 000000 to
FFFFFF.
Bob Nunn : Load em both and look sometime. Gotta run getting
late. See everyone next week. Send me the logs RT
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Rusty Tucker c-ya Bob Nunn
Bob Wright : see you guys later
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Rusty Tucker c-ya Bob Wright
Daniel O'Leary : I've loaded 4.05.
Daniel O'Leary : I don't have the ram to load both,
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Rusty Tucker c-ya mikael fredriksson
Daniel O'Leary : Where is RT?
Daniel O'Leary : guess I'm outta here also...
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Rusty Tucker c-ya Daniel O'Leary
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